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		<title>By: High cholesterol, low vitamin D and its significance pt. 2 &#171; Mo Blogs</title>
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		<dc:creator>High cholesterol, low vitamin D and its significance pt. 2 &#171; Mo Blogs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 12:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] normally add what I&#8217;m going to write on this post as a never ending addenda to my most popular post of all time (ego, sorry), but this deserves its own little fresh page as it&#8217;s virtually a end point [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] normally add what I&#8217;m going to write on this post as a never ending addenda to my most popular post of all time (ego, sorry), but this deserves its own little fresh page as it&#8217;s virtually a end point [...]</p>
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		<title>By: mo79uk</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 20:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you&#039;re &lt;em&gt;the&lt;/em&gt; Dr. David Grimes, thank you for visiting this blog-within-a-blog. It was one of your quotes that provided the fuel for this page 2yrs ago.

I sincerely hope other people will visit your website.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;re <em>the</em> Dr. David Grimes, thank you for visiting this blog-within-a-blog. It was one of your quotes that provided the fuel for this page 2yrs ago.</p>
<p>I sincerely hope other people will visit your website.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 20:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent and interesting comments.
Measuring blood cholesterol level can give worry, a false sense of security, or be of no value.
If we really want to know about our future health and to be able to do something about it, then measuring blood vitamin D level is very useful, but rarely done. Vitamin D is the forgotten vitamin, and of more importance there is no commercial interest. No one is going to make money out of sun or fish oil.
There are interesting links between vitamin D and cholesterol, and even more interesting are statin drugs. Yes they work, but not because the reduce blood cholesterol. They probably act via activating vitamin D metabolism in ways that are not yet understood.
try the website:
vitamindandcholesterol.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent and interesting comments.<br />
Measuring blood cholesterol level can give worry, a false sense of security, or be of no value.<br />
If we really want to know about our future health and to be able to do something about it, then measuring blood vitamin D level is very useful, but rarely done. Vitamin D is the forgotten vitamin, and of more importance there is no commercial interest. No one is going to make money out of sun or fish oil.<br />
There are interesting links between vitamin D and cholesterol, and even more interesting are statin drugs. Yes they work, but not because the reduce blood cholesterol. They probably act via activating vitamin D metabolism in ways that are not yet understood.<br />
try the website:<br />
vitamindandcholesterol.com</p>
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		<title>By: mo79uk</title>
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		<dc:creator>mo79uk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 09:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad to hear that. As mentioned in other places online, variations in the vitamin D receptor dictate what health problems you&#039;re likely to get, which is why there isn&#039;t a clear symptom pattern. It doesn&#039;t sound odd, but it can be accepted.

I wouldn&#039;t worry about cholesterol itself. If statins work simply by controlling inflammation as D does then having an optimal D level will be better than any effect it might have on your cholesterol level.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad to hear that. As mentioned in other places online, variations in the vitamin D receptor dictate what health problems you&#8217;re likely to get, which is why there isn&#8217;t a clear symptom pattern. It doesn&#8217;t sound odd, but it can be accepted.</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t worry about cholesterol itself. If statins work simply by controlling inflammation as D does then having an optimal D level will be better than any effect it might have on your cholesterol level.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 01:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My testosterone is within normal range. Libido is high, D Low and Cholesterol bordering on high. I don&#039;t know anymore to be honest. I have been into the health stuff for years. Sometimes things don&#039;t make sense. Like as you pointed out Cholesterol being bad for you, even when it is used for hormones and D synthesis. All I know is I have to get my D up. Not sure what I desire to happen with Cholesterol. I sure as hell wont take any drug for that though. Thanks for the response. I enjoyed reading your blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My testosterone is within normal range. Libido is high, D Low and Cholesterol bordering on high. I don&#8217;t know anymore to be honest. I have been into the health stuff for years. Sometimes things don&#8217;t make sense. Like as you pointed out Cholesterol being bad for you, even when it is used for hormones and D synthesis. All I know is I have to get my D up. Not sure what I desire to happen with Cholesterol. I sure as hell wont take any drug for that though. Thanks for the response. I enjoyed reading your blog.</p>
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		<title>By: mo79uk</title>
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		<dc:creator>mo79uk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 22:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed. Total cholesterol, or even cholesterol ratio seem worthless. There&#039;s much more significant data pointing to the gravity of naturally low cholesterol than high.

I&#039;ve noticed in articles that so-called  &#039;high&#039; cholesterol has been linked with low testosterone and this has been taken as cause and effect by some parties.
However, there are studies that show LH (luteinizing hormone) reduces cholesterol. Not only this but LH creates testosterone from cholesterol, so perhaps, logically, as testosterone rises, cholesterol decreases, rather than as cholesterol increases testosterone lowers.
Because low testosterone can be treated with therapy which (I think) bypasses the LH-cholesterol mechanism, you can probably still achieve an acceptable HDL/LDL ratio as your body may &#039;know&#039; it can withdraw some cholesterol. This however is just my own conjecture.

One other assumption I have is given vitamin D&#039;s crucial systemic role, perhaps this is also crucial for the maintenance of LH. It would somewhat explain the link between vitamin D deficiency, diabetes and resultant chances of low libido.

Good luck with the sunshine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed. Total cholesterol, or even cholesterol ratio seem worthless. There&#8217;s much more significant data pointing to the gravity of naturally low cholesterol than high.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve noticed in articles that so-called  &#8216;high&#8217; cholesterol has been linked with low testosterone and this has been taken as cause and effect by some parties.<br />
However, there are studies that show LH (luteinizing hormone) reduces cholesterol. Not only this but LH creates testosterone from cholesterol, so perhaps, logically, as testosterone rises, cholesterol decreases, rather than as cholesterol increases testosterone lowers.<br />
Because low testosterone can be treated with therapy which (I think) bypasses the LH-cholesterol mechanism, you can probably still achieve an acceptable HDL/LDL ratio as your body may &#8216;know&#8217; it can withdraw some cholesterol. This however is just my own conjecture.</p>
<p>One other assumption I have is given vitamin D&#8217;s crucial systemic role, perhaps this is also crucial for the maintenance of LH. It would somewhat explain the link between vitamin D deficiency, diabetes and resultant chances of low libido.</p>
<p>Good luck with the sunshine.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 20:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree with you on Cholesterol and Vitamin D3. I feel that perhaps we should be looking at the ratio&#039;s of HDL and LDL and not the total cholesterol. If someone had a total cholesterol of 500 but it was, say HDL 300 LDL 200. Would that be considered unhealthy? You would think that you would not only have plenty of cholesterol to synthesize Vit D, but also all the other good hormones that keep us healthy and slow aging. 

Right now I have  a Vitamin D level of 23 ng/ml. I also have a high cholesterol. I am going to give the whole more sunshine thing a try. They even have a meter that you can use to see how many IU per minute your exposed to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree with you on Cholesterol and Vitamin D3. I feel that perhaps we should be looking at the ratio&#8217;s of HDL and LDL and not the total cholesterol. If someone had a total cholesterol of 500 but it was, say HDL 300 LDL 200. Would that be considered unhealthy? You would think that you would not only have plenty of cholesterol to synthesize Vit D, but also all the other good hormones that keep us healthy and slow aging. </p>
<p>Right now I have  a Vitamin D level of 23 ng/ml. I also have a high cholesterol. I am going to give the whole more sunshine thing a try. They even have a meter that you can use to see how many IU per minute your exposed to.</p>
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		<title>By: mo79uk</title>
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		<dc:creator>mo79uk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 23:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

Thank you for commenting and I&#039;m happy to see there might be more informed nursing staff in the not too distant future. :)
I haven&#039;t studied physiology, or any other science I&#039;m afraid. I would be too much of a one-trick pony to make it, and then I cannot really take credit for much of what I&#039;ve presented here.

I have read @ http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/ about the benefits of Niacin and respect Dr. Davis&#039;s viewpoints on heart health; he&#039;s clear to point out that vitamin D is one (albeit crucial) aspect of good heart health.

And yes, D2 is the prescribed and expensive plant based form while D3 is synthesised in our skin, and fortunately cheaper too. Most doctors will put you on D2 but there is change happening. 
I know for instance that the health service in England is looking to finally get D3 in capsule form from Germany, whereas at the moment we have to rely on fast expiring heavy bottles of liquid D3. But even this is better than a few years ago where D2 was the only choice. 

I think your husband is a lucky guinea pig to at least to be off statins. :) I&#039;m not entirely anti-statin (for the time being) but as a member of the public I&#039;m very worried about it&#039;s over-prescription.

I haven&#039;t touched on testosterone much on this blog and it&#039;s a shame as I think there is probably quite an important association with vitamin D making it essential for male health.

I&#039;ll let you know if anything fresh comes my way, and indeed please share anything else you might think about or discover. It&#039;s useful seeing medical studies but it&#039;s also invaluable to hear personal opinions as long as they&#039;re sound. I have vague plans to start a collaborative blog with others with personal interest in this subject as I&#039;ve just had little time to pursue it currently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>Thank you for commenting and I&#8217;m happy to see there might be more informed nursing staff in the not too distant future. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
I haven&#8217;t studied physiology, or any other science I&#8217;m afraid. I would be too much of a one-trick pony to make it, and then I cannot really take credit for much of what I&#8217;ve presented here.</p>
<p>I have read @ <a href="http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/</a> about the benefits of Niacin and respect Dr. Davis&#8217;s viewpoints on heart health; he&#8217;s clear to point out that vitamin D is one (albeit crucial) aspect of good heart health.</p>
<p>And yes, D2 is the prescribed and expensive plant based form while D3 is synthesised in our skin, and fortunately cheaper too. Most doctors will put you on D2 but there is change happening.<br />
I know for instance that the health service in England is looking to finally get D3 in capsule form from Germany, whereas at the moment we have to rely on fast expiring heavy bottles of liquid D3. But even this is better than a few years ago where D2 was the only choice. </p>
<p>I think your husband is a lucky guinea pig to at least to be off statins. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I&#8217;m not entirely anti-statin (for the time being) but as a member of the public I&#8217;m very worried about it&#8217;s over-prescription.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t touched on testosterone much on this blog and it&#8217;s a shame as I think there is probably quite an important association with vitamin D making it essential for male health.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll let you know if anything fresh comes my way, and indeed please share anything else you might think about or discover. It&#8217;s useful seeing medical studies but it&#8217;s also invaluable to hear personal opinions as long as they&#8217;re sound. I have vague plans to start a collaborative blog with others with personal interest in this subject as I&#8217;ve just had little time to pursue it currently.</p>
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		<title>By: Aja</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 20:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, I like your blog. I&#039;m in nursing school right now &amp; am interested in this stuff.
I agree with a lot of the ideas you have &amp; am fascinated with the physiology and association of Vitamin D, testosterone and cholesterol.  My husband has low vit. D, high cholesterol &amp; Low Testosterone. He like so many other people diagnosed with high cholesterol was prescribed meds to lower his cholesterol, although at least his Dr went for the least harmful kind and not a statin. He also put him on Vitamin D supplements. Have you ever taken physiology? If not I think it sounds like a subject that you would be very interested in as you already are &amp; it also seems like something you would accel at if you chose to do medical research etc.
Also I wanted to note here: In my own studies I have come across many recommendations &amp; studies done on lowering cholesterol with Niacin. I believe it would be better to use nacin because it is natural &amp; I think it works with Vitamin D to raise the good cholesterol, which in turn lowers the bad. In regard to Vit D2 &amp; D3-...D2 comes from food we eat &amp; D3 comes from the sun I believe? I will recheck that &amp; get back to you. I have many theories of my own too &amp; my husband in a scence is like my own guine pig lol!! sorry for the spelling no time to correct it right now as I&#039;m off to write a paper for school! Keep up the good work &amp; I really think you should get into medical research, I believe you have the passion for finding answers &amp; cures &amp; you may be able to help alot of people!
Feel free to send me an email Mo if you want to run ideas by eachother. Take care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I like your blog. I&#8217;m in nursing school right now &amp; am interested in this stuff.<br />
I agree with a lot of the ideas you have &amp; am fascinated with the physiology and association of Vitamin D, testosterone and cholesterol.  My husband has low vit. D, high cholesterol &amp; Low Testosterone. He like so many other people diagnosed with high cholesterol was prescribed meds to lower his cholesterol, although at least his Dr went for the least harmful kind and not a statin. He also put him on Vitamin D supplements. Have you ever taken physiology? If not I think it sounds like a subject that you would be very interested in as you already are &amp; it also seems like something you would accel at if you chose to do medical research etc.<br />
Also I wanted to note here: In my own studies I have come across many recommendations &amp; studies done on lowering cholesterol with Niacin. I believe it would be better to use nacin because it is natural &amp; I think it works with Vitamin D to raise the good cholesterol, which in turn lowers the bad. In regard to Vit D2 &amp; D3-&#8230;D2 comes from food we eat &amp; D3 comes from the sun I believe? I will recheck that &amp; get back to you. I have many theories of my own too &amp; my husband in a scence is like my own guine pig lol!! sorry for the spelling no time to correct it right now as I&#8217;m off to write a paper for school! Keep up the good work &amp; I really think you should get into medical research, I believe you have the passion for finding answers &amp; cures &amp; you may be able to help alot of people!<br />
Feel free to send me an email Mo if you want to run ideas by eachother. Take care.</p>
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		<title>By: mo79uk</title>
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		<dc:creator>mo79uk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 15:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Lorna,

Thank you for your comment. I do plan to continue with it sometime in the near future, can&#039;t really say when, but there is some clearly some unfinished business here.
I&#039;d recommend subscribing to the Vitamin D Council&#039;s newsletter for the time being if you haven&#039;t already: http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Lorna,</p>
<p>Thank you for your comment. I do plan to continue with it sometime in the near future, can&#8217;t really say when, but there is some clearly some unfinished business here.<br />
I&#8217;d recommend subscribing to the Vitamin D Council&#8217;s newsletter for the time being if you haven&#8217;t already: <a href="http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/</a></p>
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